Episodes

In this episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Pouria Moalemian, Founder of MLO Branding Academy, to talk about how mortgage professionals can build a personal brand that creates trust, authority, and long-term business growth. In today’s mortgage market, loan officers are competing everywhere on rate, on service, and online. But Pouria shares a simple truth: when you educate first, serve first, and empower your audience, business naturally follows. Brand...

In this episode, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Marvin Hudson, NAMB Government Affairs (GA) Chair, and Lauren Patterson, NAMB Government Affairs (GA) Vice-Chair of the National Association of Mortgage Brokers (NAMB). Government Affairs may sound like something that happens behind the scenes, but it directly impacts your business every single day. Marvin and Lauren explain how advocacy protects mortgage brokers, how NAMB works to influence policy, and why staying informed give...

In this impactful episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Chelsea Gardner, Founder of Fully Aligned Marketing, to talk about how mortgage professionals can create marketing that actually connects and converts. In today’s market, many loan officers and brokers feel stuck. They are posting content, running ads, and trying new ideas—but not seeing results. The real issue often isn’t effort. It’s alignment. Chelsea explains how getting clear on your message, yo...

In this timely episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Bochen Wang, CEO of Zietro, to talk about the systems mortgage brokers need to stay efficient, competitive, and relationship-driven in today’s fast-moving market. Mortgage professionals are juggling more than ever—borrower expectations, compliance, speed, and consistency. The real question isn’t just about new technology, but about how to build smarter systems that support your business instead of slowi...

In this timely episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Marvin Hudson and Lauren Patterson, NAMB Board Directors and leaders of NAMB’s Government Affairs Committee, to break down the upcoming Trigger Lead implementation going into effect March 5, 2026. For years, mortgage professionals have raised concerns about consumers being bombarded by unwanted calls after a credit pull. Thanks to the tireless advocacy of NAMB, those protections are finally coming—but a...

What does winning an X Games medal have to do with building a real estate empire? More than you’d think! This episode of The NAMB Podcast features an inspiring conversation with Dan Brisse, two-time X Games Real Snow gold medalist, two-time silver medalist, and now Managing Partner at Granite Towers Equity Group. Dan joins Co-Hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields to share how he went from fearless pro snowboarder to disciplined real estate investor. Dan breaks down how Granite Towers Group delive...

This episode of The NAMB Podcast is packed with value for mortgage professionals looking to offer smarter solutions to their borrowers. Hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Megan Strzala, Senior Account Executive at REMN Wholesale, to talk about tools, scenarios, and strategies that help brokers stand out. Megan shares how she supports her brokers beyond the basics, giving them real-world examples they can take straight to their clients. It’s about having options, understanding prog...

This episode of The NAMB Podcast is all about taking action. Hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Jeff Parry, Treasurer and Board Member of the National Association of Mortgage Brokers (NAMB), to talk about leadership, service, and making an impact in the mortgage industry. Jeff shares how getting involved changed his life and why stepping up can change yours too. From building connections to creating momentum, this conversation is a roadmap for anyone ready to grow. You’ll hear re...

In this powerhouse episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Jeff Leinan, Co President of Plaza Home Mortgage, to unlock the keys to driving the mortgage industry forward by investing in people, purpose, and progress. Jeff shares how Plaza Home Mortgage is creating massive impact by supporting every role in the mortgage space — from account executives and underwriters to processors and originators. This is not just about transactions. This is about transforma...

In this episode of the NAMB Podcast, hosts, Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Paul Jones, Senior Vice President of Correspondent Lending at Logan Finance, to dive into the full spectrum of non-QM lending solutions. From wholesale to correspondent, commercial broker channels to their new delegated platform—Logan Finance offers unmatched flexibility for mortgage professionals looking to grow. Paul shares how Logan Finance helps partners start strong, close deals, and drive repeat busines...

In this episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Marvin Hudson, NAMB Board Director and Government Affairs Chair, and Lauren Patterson, NAMB Board Director and Past Government Affairs Chair, to break down the latest in mortgage industry advocacy and how professionals can take action. Marvin and Lauren share insights from Capitol Hill, offer strategies to help mortgage pros stay informed on regulatory updates, and highlight the vital role NAMB plays in shapin...

In this episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Kimber White, President of the National Association of Mortgage Brokers (NAMB), and Michael Farrell, NAMB President‑Elect, to explore what’s ahead for the mortgage industry and why now is the time to get involved. Kimber and Michael talk about NAMB’s recent trip to Washington, D.C., where they met with key lawmakers and staff on both sides of the aisle—including members of the Senate Banking, Housing & Finance...

In this episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Kimber White, President of the National Association of Mortgage Brokers (NAMB), to explore what’s ahead for the mortgage industry and why now is the time to get involved. Kimber shares exciting news about NAMB’s 2026 initiatives, including the launch of a new marketing team, plans for the April Legislative Conference, and the growing impact of the NAMB Young Professionals group. With fresh energy and innovativ...

In this powerful episode of The NAMB Podcast, host Matt Shields sits down with two industry icons: A.W. Pickel III, past president of NAMB and Doug Braden, Director on the NAMB Board and passionate advocate for VA loans. Recorded live at the NAMB National Conference, this episode dives deep into the evolution of the mortgage broker channel and the future impact of AI, personalization, and broker independence. A.W. shares his bold prediction: by 2030, brokers could dominate over 50% of loan orig...

In this exciting episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Lisa O’Connor, newly appointed Director on the NAMB Board of Directors, live from NAMB National in Las Vegas. Lisa shares her incredible journey—from racing dirt track stock cars in Florida to stepping into leadership within one of the mortgage industry's most respected organizations. Tune in as Lisa reveals the real impact of volunteering, the importance of advocacy in our industry, and how programs ...

In this powerful episode of The NAMB Podcast, recorded live at the NAMB National Conference in Las Vegas, host Matt Shields sits down with Michael Farrell, President-Elect of NAMB, and Lauren Patterson, NAMB Director, to uncover the legislative and membership milestones shaping the future of the mortgage industry. From the monumental Trigger Leads Bill—seven years in the making—to the launch of the NAMB Young Professionals (NAMB YP) initiative and a 300% surge in membership, this episode dives ...

In this episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Aleyna Groves, Co-Founder of Groves Capital, to talk about redefining the mortgage broker model and the exciting innovations coming to the industry — including the power of AI and digital branding. In this inspiring episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Aleyna Groves, Co-Founder of Groves Capital (https://grovescapital.com ), to explore how her company is breaking the tr...

In this episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Jim Nabors, Past-President of the National Association of Mortgage Brokers (NAMB), to reflect on his journey, leadership, and the bright future of the mortgage industry. Jim shares his experiences serving as NAMB President, the importance of advocacy for brokers nationwide, and what’s next as he transitions into his Past President role. He also gives a preview of NAMB National, where he’ll officially pass the ...

In this episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Alex Temple, Partner at Mitchell Sandler, to discuss the rapidly evolving role of AI in the mortgage industry and the regulatory landscape that’s emerging alongside it. Alex shares insights on how young professionals entering the business can leverage AI as a competitive advantage, why early adoption will define future success, and how upcoming regulations could reshape the way mortgage pros operate. From pers...

In this episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Matt Coles, National Sales Manager at FirstFunding, to talk about building a culture of mentorship and why it’s more important than ever in today’s mortgage industry. Matt shares how the landscape has changed over the past five years, creating more opportunities for professionals to learn, grow, and lean on each other. He also introduces his own show, the Non-Deal Influencers Podcast, and why content-driven co...

In this episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Christine Beckwith, CEO of 20/20 Vision, to talk about high-performance selling strategies and how mortgage professionals can thrive through shifting markets. Christine shares her insights on what it takes to stay sharp, strategic, and successful—especially heading into the winter months. She also gives us a sneak peek of her upcoming main stage appearance at NAMB National in Las Vegas, where she’ll deliver a ...

In this episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields are joined by Megan Anderson—mortgage educator, podcaster, and adventurous van lifer! 🚐✨ Megan shares her unique journey, from traveling across Canada to hosting her own podcast, On the Highway, and how life on the road connects to success in the mortgage industry. Plus—hear all about our upcoming NAMB National meetup, where Megan will join forces with NAMB’s Young Professionals group for a special networking event in Las V...

In this episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Kyle Draper, speaker, coach, and social media growth strategist, to talk about how mortgage professionals can create powerful connections and grow their business through authentic content. Kyle shares why “being you” is the most effective marketing strategy and offers tactical tips on using video, storytelling, and consistency to win in today’s digital world. From content confidence to coaching success, this e...

In this episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Valerie Saunders, Chief Executive Strategist of the National Association of Mortgage Brokers (NAMB), for an inside look at the ongoing regulatory and advocacy work shaping the future of the mortgage industry. Valerie shares her perspective on the role of the CFPB, other key regulatory agencies, and how NAMB continues to fight for mortgage professionals nationwide. From legislative updates to industry events, s...