Episodes

This episode of The NAMB Podcast is all about taking action. Hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Jeff Parry, Treasurer and Board Member of the National Association of Mortgage Brokers (NAMB), to talk about leadership, service, and making an impact in the mortgage industry. Jeff shares how getting involved changed his life and why stepping up can change yours too. From building connections to creating momentum, this conversation is a roadmap for anyone ready to grow. You’ll hear re...

In this powerhouse episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Jeff Leinan, Co President of Plaza Home Mortgage, to unlock the keys to driving the mortgage industry forward by investing in people, purpose, and progress. Jeff shares how Plaza Home Mortgage is creating massive impact by supporting every role in the mortgage space — from account executives and underwriters to processors and originators. This is not just about transactions. This is about transforma...

In this episode of the NAMB Podcast, hosts, Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Paul Jones, Senior Vice President of Correspondent Lending at Logan Finance, to dive into the full spectrum of non-QM lending solutions. From wholesale to correspondent, commercial broker channels to their new delegated platform—Logan Finance offers unmatched flexibility for mortgage professionals looking to grow. Paul shares how Logan Finance helps partners start strong, close deals, and drive repeat busines...

In this episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Marvin Hudson, NAMB Board Director and Government Affairs Chair, and Lauren Patterson, NAMB Board Director and Past Government Affairs Chair, to break down the latest in mortgage industry advocacy and how professionals can take action. Marvin and Lauren share insights from Capitol Hill, offer strategies to help mortgage pros stay informed on regulatory updates, and highlight the vital role NAMB plays in shapin...

In this episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Kimber White, President of the National Association of Mortgage Brokers (NAMB), and Michael Farrell, NAMB President‑Elect, to explore what’s ahead for the mortgage industry and why now is the time to get involved. Kimber and Michael talk about NAMB’s recent trip to Washington, D.C., where they met with key lawmakers and staff on both sides of the aisle—including members of the Senate Banking, Housing & Finance...

In this episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Kimber White, President of the National Association of Mortgage Brokers (NAMB), to explore what’s ahead for the mortgage industry and why now is the time to get involved. Kimber shares exciting news about NAMB’s 2026 initiatives, including the launch of a new marketing team, plans for the April Legislative Conference, and the growing impact of the NAMB Young Professionals group. With fresh energy and innovativ...

In this powerful episode of The NAMB Podcast, host Matt Shields sits down with two industry icons: A.W. Pickel III, past president of NAMB and Doug Braden, Director on the NAMB Board and passionate advocate for VA loans. Recorded live at the NAMB National Conference, this episode dives deep into the evolution of the mortgage broker channel and the future impact of AI, personalization, and broker independence. A.W. shares his bold prediction: by 2030, brokers could dominate over 50% of loan orig...

In this exciting episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Lisa O’Connor, newly appointed Director on the NAMB Board of Directors, live from NAMB National in Las Vegas. Lisa shares her incredible journey—from racing dirt track stock cars in Florida to stepping into leadership within one of the mortgage industry's most respected organizations. Tune in as Lisa reveals the real impact of volunteering, the importance of advocacy in our industry, and how programs ...

In this powerful episode of The NAMB Podcast, recorded live at the NAMB National Conference in Las Vegas, host Matt Shields sits down with Michael Farrell, President-Elect of NAMB, and Lauren Patterson, NAMB Director, to uncover the legislative and membership milestones shaping the future of the mortgage industry. From the monumental Trigger Leads Bill—seven years in the making—to the launch of the NAMB Young Professionals (NAMB YP) initiative and a 300% surge in membership, this episode dives ...

In this episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Aleyna Groves, Co-Founder of Groves Capital, to talk about redefining the mortgage broker model and the exciting innovations coming to the industry — including the power of AI and digital branding. In this inspiring episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Aleyna Groves, Co-Founder of Groves Capital (https://grovescapital.com ), to explore how her company is breaking the tr...

In this episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Jim Nabors, Past-President of the National Association of Mortgage Brokers (NAMB), to reflect on his journey, leadership, and the bright future of the mortgage industry. Jim shares his experiences serving as NAMB President, the importance of advocacy for brokers nationwide, and what’s next as he transitions into his Past President role. He also gives a preview of NAMB National, where he’ll officially pass the ...

In this episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Alex Temple, Partner at Mitchell Sandler, to discuss the rapidly evolving role of AI in the mortgage industry and the regulatory landscape that’s emerging alongside it. Alex shares insights on how young professionals entering the business can leverage AI as a competitive advantage, why early adoption will define future success, and how upcoming regulations could reshape the way mortgage pros operate. From pers...

In this episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Matt Coles, National Sales Manager at FirstFunding, to talk about building a culture of mentorship and why it’s more important than ever in today’s mortgage industry. Matt shares how the landscape has changed over the past five years, creating more opportunities for professionals to learn, grow, and lean on each other. He also introduces his own show, the Non-Deal Influencers Podcast, and why content-driven co...

In this episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Christine Beckwith, CEO of 20/20 Vision, to talk about high-performance selling strategies and how mortgage professionals can thrive through shifting markets. Christine shares her insights on what it takes to stay sharp, strategic, and successful—especially heading into the winter months. She also gives us a sneak peek of her upcoming main stage appearance at NAMB National in Las Vegas, where she’ll deliver a ...

In this episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields are joined by Megan Anderson—mortgage educator, podcaster, and adventurous van lifer! 🚐✨ Megan shares her unique journey, from traveling across Canada to hosting her own podcast, On the Highway, and how life on the road connects to success in the mortgage industry. Plus—hear all about our upcoming NAMB National meetup, where Megan will join forces with NAMB’s Young Professionals group for a special networking event in Las V...

In this episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Kyle Draper, speaker, coach, and social media growth strategist, to talk about how mortgage professionals can create powerful connections and grow their business through authentic content. Kyle shares why “being you” is the most effective marketing strategy and offers tactical tips on using video, storytelling, and consistency to win in today’s digital world. From content confidence to coaching success, this e...

In this episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Valerie Saunders, Chief Executive Strategist of the National Association of Mortgage Brokers (NAMB), for an inside look at the ongoing regulatory and advocacy work shaping the future of the mortgage industry. Valerie shares her perspective on the role of the CFPB, other key regulatory agencies, and how NAMB continues to fight for mortgage professionals nationwide. From legislative updates to industry events, s...

In this episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Kimber White, Incoming President of the National Association of Mortgage Brokers (NAMB), to discuss the vital role of advocacy in shaping our industry’s future. From the fast-paced halls of Capitol Hill to the everyday impact on mortgage professionals, Kimber shares why legislative involvement isn’t just important—it’s essential. In this episode, you’ll discover: 🏛 How lobbying in Washington, D.C., directly im...

In this episode of The NAMB Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields sit down with Barry Habib, CEO of MBS Highway, to talk about how mortgage professionals can prepare clients for optimal timing in the market—and turn planning into action when rates hit. Barry shares his strategy around “strike rates” and how leveraging this powerful tool helps brokers guide borrowers with confidence. From data-driven insights to execution-ready tactics, this episode is packed with advice to help you lead y...

Welcome to the debut episode of The NAMB Podcast with hosts Ginger Bell and Matt Shields, brought to you by the National Association of Mortgage Brokers (NAMB). In this first conversation, Ginger and Matt share their vision for the show, why they’re passionate about bringing mortgage professionals together, and how being part of a strong community like NAMB can help you build lasting connections, gain valuable knowledge, and make a real impact in your career. They also preview exciting guests ...

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